Comments on: Why I installed debian over my copy of vista rc2

By: Tree

Tree — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:48:47 +0000

Microsoft seems to be mixed up…..or else arrogant. I state this because they are assuming they can put a product on the market that isn’t really ready. This probably goes to their assumption on general user ignorance in that people just use what they buy. But this is a guided user public that has become used to the corporate and social system that spurs the economy. My point is that the Vista system is a product of a company that keeps changing its mind and it shows. All a person has to do is spend two weeks using Linux and the difference is like a breath of fresh air in a cave of bat guano.

Being a defender and user of Windows since its birth I am embarrassed in saying that I finally realize what a crappy product I had been using, and my Vista testing is gthe last straw. I am now a Penguin lover…

By: vaibhav

vaibhav — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:51:13 +0000

Hello Mr Slackware,

You forget the things about knowledge. Knowledge spreads when in open domain. I am not saying windows is not entitled to keep its code secret, what i am saying what a new student will learn in classes if everything is closed? Operating systems are rather more general thing than a software. And do u believe in monopoly ?? Be well versed with your vista, linux is noway in backyard as u suggested. I am a student and can’t afford to buy a windows copy t run a webserver, so where do i go? And about your stealing business, linux in very first says that it was built on unix philosophy and if thats called stealing than u may call vista robbery as they wud claim everything is new or may be they get patent for icons as well. Its the question of preferences. Yours may be something mine can be something else.

vaibhav

By: Anirudh

Anirudh — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:50:45 +0000

Hi @slackwarelover, I completely agree what you say, but I was just questioning one thing: how much will it affect an ordinary home or morderate office user. There are great admin tools and I have seen the SDK(it comes on a dvd! wow)
The shell is powershell and is great with great scripting capabilities. The security is beefed up and for some reason, this gargantuan piece of bloatware runs faster than I can think. I’m no authority on enterprise solutions, I don’t even network that much. Vista’ll do fine on the market, who knows, I’m so fickle minded, I might actually go back to vista as soon as I get my hands on it. It’s about the amount of creativity and thought and brilliance of the os which I found with my 1 month with linux that is missing here.

By: slackware lover

slackware lover — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 17:22:17 +0000

So, all you did was a check on the memory/paging, and the eyecandy. But did you know about all the new tools to admin Vista, both for personal use but also in a corporate situation? Did you check up on the technology behind? Yes, most is “stolen” from the good old Unix days. And don’t tell me Linux doesn’t “steel”, I don’t have anything against that.

But the real news with Vista is not the flashy gui. You have to look deeper then that. And there you’ll find out how much better Vista is then XP and even much easyer (no you don’t need to use a gui only, all the admin tools in vista comes as command line tools aswell for scripting). Yes there is tools in linux (but not as good ones in gui’s) but this is a large step forward for the windows series and one that I like a lot. It makes Vista an OS that I most certanly would like to use. In business.

Vista seems for me like the GNU/Linux desktop killer. Why? For most users it got the right eyecandy. It has become more mature then XP. It’s just so much easyer to deploy in large scale AND maintain from remote. (even the install). Even tools for such large scale deployment is good for singel user too.

And in the light of the Debian “politics” (the last scary one is the firefox logo thing they don’t like, what the f…?) There will be hard times for other “non free” software in linux on the desktop. Do you think Adobe would let their photoshop logo go “free”? Or other big company logo’s? And if there is a fork for every such software… they don’t earn the money, and ditch gnu/linux.

I also use Slackware on my servers (for business and private) and on my desktop (also for business and private) But maintain some windows clients/servers as well.

And if you change back to linux just because of the reasons you stated above, I don’t think you know off all the good tools you actually find in Vista.

I can see that an short term install av Vista don’t give you much to try, and you might not even know how to use (or why?) the tools that comes with it. But you didn’t give me a good argument to why you switched back.

By: E@zyVG

E@zyVG — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:49:12 +0000

Still need to try Vista RC1, but only as gaming platform.

Last time i installed beta2, as i remember correctly, i couldn’t even get my internet (via ethernet) working …. maybe cause it was 64bit version.

Other than that - Linux is my choice for everyday use.